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Okay, all sorts of updates for today.

First off, some new construction photos from Brian Fey - Encore, Palazzo, etc.. - these are really coming together!
http://www.ratevegas.com/photo/gallery/brianfey - Thanks Brian!!

One photo that got special mention is this Encore shot:
http://www.ratevegas.com/photo/show/4703?gallery_id=115

People have been asking what this is.... Well, the plans I saw put the garden area right in that space - this looks to me like an advanced watering system. My guess is that these gardens are special - some kind of 'hook' or feature built into this attraction to make this more interesting than plants in the (fake) ground.

[Ed: Looks like this was even more basic than what we thought. Since we posted this I've been asking around and it sounds like this is based off the data network for the slot machines in the casino portion. Apparently the added casino space has encroached on the garden area and that explains the location... So - more casino, less garden = no story.]

[Ed (again): Looks like VT&T confirms this.]

MGM Grand wants to build another convention center adjacent to their existing facility.
http://dsnet.co.clark.nv.us/dsnetapps/agendaweb/Data/P0212157.htm

Trump Las Vegas wants to change their floor numbering. This one is funny since it shows how these numbers are totally manipulated for marketing purposes.
http://dsnet.co.clark.nv.us/dsnetapps/agendaweb/Data/P0212199.htm

Fun with parking at the Cosmo site.
http://dsnet.co.clark.nv.us/dsnetapps/agendaweb/Data/P0212232.htm

Las Vegas Sands wants to add a pedestrian bridge to the back side of the Sands Expo Center.
http://dsnet.co.clark.nv.us/dsnetapps/agendaweb/Data/P0212674.htm

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May 10, 2007 8:15 PM Posted by BrianFey

http://www.ratevegas.com/photo/show/4713?gallery_id=115

What do you think this large and tall structure is in the back, between the garage and the villa's? Is this just part of the convention center? Or could this be another theater? I still want to know if there will be a 3rd theater at Wynn/Encore? Or if they axed that idea, instead to add casino, pool, and convention space.

May 10, 2007 9:10 PM Posted by Hunter

Yeah, I saw that.

The plans I saw didn't have a theater there but we know that the plans have changed since then. That seems like a radical change but it's certainly possible.

The framing sure does look like a theater.

The original extra theater was to be next to the existing two so this is in a slightly different spot. Who knows.

May 11, 2007 4:59 AM Posted by Pikes

Nice Pics Brian... Is that a 2nd parking garage next to the mystery structure?

May 11, 2007 8:59 AM Posted by Hunter

Yes indeed, that's the new valet garage. As far as I know, it's not going to offer much, if any, self parking.

May 11, 2007 10:54 AM Posted by detroit1051

Brian, great photos. I really like the look of Barney's or whatever the retail building is at the sidewalk of Palazzo. I'm still not clear on where the high-end condos will be in relation to Barney's or Palazzo. Do you know?

May 11, 2007 11:05 AM Posted by Hunter

The condos are going to be built above Barney's, right?

I was under the impression it was near where The Venetian connects to Palazzo.

Since it's unbuilt, it's sorta hard to direct you to a specific part of a photo but I imagine a view like this:

http://www.ratevegas.com/photo/show/4723?gallery_id=52

would change to block most of the view of The Venetian.

May 11, 2007 11:52 AM Posted by dstanley

Is the Palazzo still scheduled to open in October? It looks like it won't be ready. I cannot imagine it being open before March.

May 11, 2007 2:33 PM Posted by Brian Fey

If you remember where the old Rosewood Grill was, which was then going to become a Walgrees, and yes its right next to the Venetian on the north side, that is where this tower is slated to go. A manager at Venetian just told my father, that information was incorrect, but in fact, I think that he is incorrect. It makes me sick, how much more I know about Vegas development, than many of the upper management that works on the strip! Why don't I work for these people???

May 11, 2007 4:34 PM Posted by Mike P.

detroit, what you're seeing in the construction photos is Palazzo's retail podium. Right now (or at least two weeks ago) there was a concrete plant where Barney's will be, which is right next to the pedestrian bridge from TI to Venetian. At least my understanding about its future location is the same as Brian's.

According to VegasTodayandTomorrow the condo tower will rise right out of Barney's.

May 11, 2007 5:39 PM Posted by Pikes

I think Sheldon wants to block Wynn/Encore's view of the south strip with this condo tower.

May 11, 2007 6:38 PM Posted by hail2skins

The guy at VT&T claims he received an e-mail stating that the area Brian Fey was curious about will be in the casino area.

http://www.vegastodayandtomorrow.com/wynn.htm#const

May 11, 2007 8:05 PM Posted by Hunter

Yeah, we updated the main story above a little bit ago.

I got similar info... I should get a look at final plans in about 10 days. I will report back.

May 11, 2007 8:34 PM Posted by mdiederi

Here's the Planning Agenda that says the Palazzo condo tower will be on the Walgreen site.
http://dsnet.co.clark.nv.us/dsnetapps/agendaweb/Data/P0194639.htm

Here's the model of the Barney's department store.
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/3544/mod44xd6.jpg
Looks like the store is at least six foors.

And here's a photo of the site from a couple months ago.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Palazzo/pcz24.jpg

May 12, 2007 5:04 AM Posted by Brian Fey

Pikes - Sheldon blocked some of the view with Palazzo itself. This new tower will indeed block some more. However, The tower is too small to make a major impact. Though it is very tall, coming in at 50-60 stories, its has a pretty small footprint. It should be similar in size to a single Veer Tower, or the Harmon Hotel. Also, unless they stick with a similar look, This place is going to look so out of place. This is another great design idea, by the LVS company. Lets build something that looks out of place, and does not belong. On another note, I heard a rumor, that LVS plans to tear down the whole Sands Expo center, to rebuild a new larger one. I'm not sure I believe this, but I do know they want a larger one, and that is a older structure 10+ years I know.

May 12, 2007 6:25 AM Posted by detroit1051

Mike P, thanks. I don't know what design/architectural experts think, but Palazzo's retail podium is very appealing to me. It has a classic look.

May 12, 2007 7:34 AM Posted by John

Detriot, that very elegant and refined symmetry is something we don't really see on the Strip much anymore. It's a really nice departure for Palazzo to take that route. However, it's just not the retail podium. The entire resort seems to be symmetrical. I was always weary about the project, but I'm really hoping LVS can pull something off with this. However, I think the only really detering factor of the resort is going to be its size. I really think it's just too much resort for that small piece of land. I mean the Porte-Cochere has no real grandeur to speak of, it's just there, tucked into a small corner of the resort.

May 14, 2007 3:27 PM Posted by Mark D

Just drove by and it looks like the Palazzo core has topped-off, there aren't any forms or rebar at the top anymore.

May 19, 2007 6:36 PM Posted by detroit1051

Macau, Vegas and Gaming:
http://www.hotelsmag.com/archives/2007/05/sr/

June 7, 2007 9:11 AM Posted by detroit1051

Mexican, anyone?
The June 5 "Eye on Vegas" writes about the new B.R. Guest restaurant opening at Palazzo, Dos Caminos. Fiamma at MGM Grand is also a Guest restaurant. It's the first story in the column.
http://www.thevegaseye.com/
http://www.brguestrestaurants.com/index.php

April 7, 2008 3:25 AM Posted by joe

I think the Palazzo hits the spot in all cases, i love the property.It was a shame it wasnt fully open when i visited, infact i nearly walked into a glass plate window being carried by two workmen and part of the roof had blown off in the wind. the rooms are great though and the shops out standing.