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February 25, 2007

Will Transportation Issues Slow Las Vegas Growth?

Posted by Hunter

This is a topic that Detroit1051 has mentioned several times - Las Vegas infrastructure and how it impacts tourism.

Today's LV Sun has an article on that very topic. Jeff Simpson talks about the impact and some potential solutions.

What do you guys think? How bad is it now and will these problems make you re-consider your vacation?

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February 25, 2007 11:23 AM Posted by Christian

I've always been wondering about this topic. I saw a report that, if approved, the monorail connecting to the airport would not be open until 2011!

The traffic problems on the strip drive me to anywhere but there. The streets are packed, the monorail is somewhat okay but out of the way, taxis are taxis, and the deuce buses take forever to load and unload with their large capacity.

The strip hotels need to evaluate this problem because it may push guests away to a more planned resort area.

Even if tourism isn't affected, I as a resident am more inclined to visit a Station resort than something on the strip.

February 25, 2007 11:41 AM Posted by Dave Lifton

We like to find places off-Strip, so we usually have a car when we go to LV. But the traffic on the Strip doesn't affect us too badly because we learned early on to use Paradise and I-15 to get around quickly. It's just not worth it otherwise.

February 25, 2007 12:25 PM Posted by mike_ch

I only ride buses to the Strip because who wants to drive there?

I'm with Christian in that I'm finding more and more alternatives, although I'm starting to warm up to the downtown places (particularly Boyd and Nugget) over the Stations because they have more charm and history. The Stations', except for GVR which is too far away from me, feel a bit too much like gambling's Wal-Mart.

February 25, 2007 2:26 PM Posted by Christian

Frank Sinatra used to be a good shortcut, but now even that is packed on a friday night!

February 25, 2007 2:53 PM Posted by Jason Robar

While I haven't been as often as some of the regular commenters here, the thought of renting a car has never entered my mind. I stay on the strip and don't mind walking. With that said, I think that they need some sort of non-ground travel method of moving people. The monorail is great for end-to-end strip travel, but it should stretch to downtown as well.

February 25, 2007 6:16 PM Posted by David F.

There has been much discussion on the Monorial, and I used to think that extending it to the Airport was a good solution, now I am not so sure, if for no other reason that people will not want haul their luggage to the Monorail and through the airport.

The traffic situation will not get any better. To follow up to the earlier posting about changing habits of Vegas travel, I used to feel a Car rental was a vital part of a Vegas trip, now I am not so sure, thats probably down to me being more picky about where I visit, as opposed to wanting to do everything in the past..

I any event I'm sure its all Steve Wynn's fault.... in fact I can almost triple guarantee it... ;-)

February 25, 2007 9:01 PM Posted by motoman

On yet another news story about water, it was said that Vegas actively encourages unfettered growth and argues against any moratoriums with the dubious claim that growth in Vegas itself fuels the entire state's economy. Sounds far too much like the argument of a crack addict. You guys haven't yet added any commentary about water but it is one of the major underlying infrastructure issues like no time since the Old West.

Like Jason, I'll stay on the Strip and walk. Cabs have become worth the expense because nowadays I'm usually with a group as opposed to alone. I might also add to the Travel Habits thread that I recall when one could jaywalk across the Strip almost any time of day, especially the North end. Now I thank the prophets for the elevated walkways and safety railings.

Also I was thankful that Vegas finally offered a transit daypass (only a decade or two behind San Francisco) and added those double decker busses, but like Dave I now consider the Duece painfully slow. Walking was literally faster and allowed me to snap some photos of the Palazzo on the way back to WLV.

February 25, 2007 10:04 PM Posted by mike_ch

Motoman, it's not as much taht there isn't a supply of water nearby but what is there is mostly claimed by southern California. Los Angeles & Friends stake a huge claim to water, the result is that Las Vegas is now despised through the west as the new "water pig" when LA has been the king of that for decades. Northern California (aqueduct, anyone?) and other regions have felt it, too.

Living in Las Vegas gives me a whole new dimension on my dislike for Southern California. As a resident of the top half of CA, I disliked the bottom half for getting the lion's share of the ballot transportation and education funds that we still had to pay for, but in NV I've learned to dislike them for their water use, as well. ;)

February 26, 2007 8:57 PM Posted by Phouchg

Frank Sinatra is a great shortcut, except around shift change time. If you are caught there around 3pm, 11pm and 7am, fuhgeddaboudit.

Personally, every trip I have taken there has been via car, so I have learned most of the shortcuts and back entrances around the strip. Up until the past year, I have always stayed off-strip, generally at one of a number of Station properties. I joined HET Total Rewards and since then (and making Diamond) every stay has been on the strip for free. I'm sure that will continue for the forseeable future.

Congestion isn't really an issue for me, but I imagine an infrequent visitor could get very frustrated driving around.

March 2, 2007 8:52 PM Posted by Gregory_Zephyr

I have to wonder if it is or is not in the Strip resorts' best interest to move people quickly and efficiently up and down the Strip. Personally, if I don't have a car and, especially if it's a weekend, I tend to stay at the property where my room is. Or, not much farther than next door or across the street. It would be an interesting survey to understand what percentage of visitors would truly not come to Vegas due to transportation challenges. The backlog at the airport surely might be a problem but I'm not really sure about traffic on the Strip.

March 3, 2007 2:58 PM Posted by motoman

Interesting, Gregory....
sort of like the idea of not having clocks or daylight visible from within the casino (with one or two exceptions we're aware of ;-) or having to serpentine thru the slot machines to get to an exit.

BTW thanks for commenting, nice to have some new blood here....