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September 20, 2012

Vegas Gang #82 - September 20th, 2012

Posted by Hunter

Episode #82 is up!

Listen here:


This time on the show:

- The Quad

- AC Mini Casinos

- VegasTripping Flamingo Review

- South Point Online Poker

** Sure Bets **

Chuck - Lime-A-Rita
Dr. Dave - Mr. Rodgers Neighborhood on Amazon Instant Video
Hunter - iOS 6 Maps

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Read archived comments (16 so far)
September 25, 2012 5:21 PM Posted by Paul Shanahan

Good show guys. In my opinion The Quad is kind of a generic and boring name. For a name that sounds like a meeting place (like The Quad) I think El Centro would have been much better.

Chuckmonster thanks for putting up that video of the guy wandering around the Fontainebleau until he got to the top. That was pretty cool. I got up on the roof of the Polo Towers a couple of years ago, I was surprised at how easy it was. There is a small pool up there.

September 26, 2012 12:09 PM Posted by detroit1051

Good show as always, but I signed off depressed about The Quad, Flamingo and the AC boutique resort fiasco. I'm concerned about CZR's future. They're obviously trying to maintain and improve Caesars Palace as the flagship property, but there's nothing left for the other properties. Linq better work, or CZR is in a world of trouble. How could management not have had the same thoughts as you all about the name Quad? Same with Hard Rock. How could they have thought, even for a minute, that boutiques made sense? They should have listened to Dr. Dave for the last two years. Come to think of it, everyone in the gaming industry should listen to the wisdom from Dave, Chuck and Hunter.

September 26, 2012 8:13 PM Posted by phoenix cpa

I agree with detroit1050, i too feel they are trying to maintain that location as the flagship property.

September 28, 2012 3:33 PM Posted by chuckmonster

perhaps we should change sure bets to "questionable wagers"

September 29, 2012 10:09 AM Posted by Hunter

Ha! Regarding my Maps recommendation? Maybe we should...

I still stand by what I said - Flyover is really cool for 'flying' around Las Vegas. I play with it way more than I ever thought I would.

Obviously, problems with Apple Maps are well known (though I believe the coverage is overblown). My personal experience has been very positive as has it been for a bunch of other people I've talked to, though I've heard from others who have had problems too.

I think I mentioned on the show that people should do their own research before upgrading to make sure they're not going to be unhappy and I stand by that too.

Now, I've got to get going. I've got a dentist appointment across town and Maps says it will take 6 hours to get there on the route it picked out.

September 30, 2012 3:41 AM Posted by harvey cohen

We ate at the Silverado steakhouse at Spoint last night. I had the scallop ap she had the crab cocktail 15 $$ each. I had the salmon she had the steak and lobster which is now 100 $$ plus my 40 $$ Salmon . She loves their bread pudding I took the killer chocolate cake home combined 14 $$ and two bottles of water 195 $$ bill , no wine ! She couldn’t eat the steak so I took that home for lunch . Everything was still very high quality and great service but prices are going through the roof ! I can’t even imagine what is happened on the strip in gourmet rooms and pricing ?

September 30, 2012 5:28 AM Posted by JohnD

That steakhouse in South Point is ridiculously priced. Regardless of ingredient sourcing or preparation, those prices are not the norm in Las Vegas and even on the strip would be absolutely ridiculous. While it's true that Las Vegas does charge a premium for food in the tourist corridor, that particular establishment is an absolute joke. Even M just down the road is going to provide better service and what's likely a better value proposition.

September 30, 2012 5:30 AM Posted by JohnD

I suppose the (now-closed) steakhouse at Bill's is the closest Strip side comparison to the steakhouse at South Point. Ridiculous prices, suspect value.

September 30, 2012 7:16 AM Posted by detroit1051

I know Harvey is an excellent vp player who uses comps for meals. He doesn't drink, so there's no alcohol on his checks. However, most tourists don't eat like he does. Food prices are up, but it's still possible to get bargains in Vegas and elsewhere. I know that Harvey eats at more locals buffets than at steakhouses like this one.

September 30, 2012 8:29 AM Posted by Dan Short

Guess we shouldn't buy the latest Groupon for Carlos'n Charlies? :)

September 30, 2012 2:14 PM Posted by harvey cohen


Fun place, but i wouldn't eat there again, i hope they improved it since the first month. If you want great value try the Tuscany Gardens at the Tuscany Hotel, great salmon, seabass, lobster tail, steak etc. At Spoint Don Vitos is still a very good value if you are paying. At the Rio we both like Martaranos.

September 30, 2012 4:35 PM Posted by JeffinOKC

Please allow me to respectfully request that Mr. Cohen's comments about his dining experiences be moved to the 9-3-2012 thread "Is The Strip Finished", along with the related posts. I don't think he means to hijack the thread, he just doesn't understand the message board thread guidlines.

October 1, 2012 7:33 AM Posted by Hunter

Movable Type has no facility to move comments between threads.

October 2, 2012 3:56 AM Posted by Jeff in OKC

So, Admiral, are you telling me that it's not possible to move what someone typed on Moveable Type?

October 2, 2012 4:30 AM Posted by Jeff in OKC

Another great show, as usual. Thanks for your hard work and dedication. I am energized by the knowledge that I will be able to bask in the light of your collective Glory in a few, short days. VIMFP!

I didn't go to college. Not a single class. It isn't much of an exaggeration to say the total of my campus experience involves Oklahoma Sooners football games. This means I see The Quad name in a completely different light. I don't have any emotional or experiential response. It just seems like a blank, civic arena from the 70s, like the Omni (Atlanta), Myriad (OKC) or Pyrimad(Memphis). I hope Dr. Dave is right and it is just a short term placeholder. I wonder how large a percentage of the customer base of that property is not college educated?

October 2, 2012 8:28 AM Posted by Hunter

Ha, that's funny.